Mention the Church of the Multiplication and the vandalism that occurred. Verses 1-15 is the fee ding of the 5000. The only miracle recorded in all gospels. Matthew 14:13-21, Mark 6:32’44, Luke 9:10-17. Case 15 Jesus withdrew so they wouldn’t make him king. Vs 16-21 . Al mentioned the metaphor of bread made by humans, fish by God, baskets by people. The people wanted something physical like food or deliverance from the Romans. Is there a difference between NT god and OT god Jesus. We got into a discussion of hierarchy and why God chose that time for Jesus at the time of the Romans. How does a leader get made.