Do we have to continue to ask in order for prayers to be answered. In the message it says that the judge would attack me if I don’t give her justice. God isn’t in the mood for give me a prayer for a pony. Do we need to bombard God with prayer. Prayer is invoked for sickness, but maybe you should pray for God’s will be done. Does God listen to our prayers? Is God passing judgement when he doesn’t answer our prayers? We project our humanity onto God. John quoting C’s lewis said continually petition God for gods knowledge and power to carry out God’s will. How many of us really think God has a predetermined plan that is not known to us and when prayer is not answered we think it violates his plan. We are self centered and is that our greatest sin? When does God really talk to us and could dreams be a way of communicating with us. Mick Jaeger said in a song you don’t always get what you want but maybe you get what you need. We went on to the Pharisees and the tax collector. How many of us are really the pharisee? Do we as humans have to have someone to look down on? Like in White trash the us founding fathers thought having slaves would ruin the lower class of people. We got into a discussion of the Trinity. It addresses a spiritual need.
Dan has pity instead of Mercy in vs 13. Very different connotation. Jesus is the priest for the leper who came back to give thanks. Maybe that is why he gives thanks. Leprosy affects nerves and circulation. And fingers can fall off. Vs. 21 says the kingdom is in your midst. It is within us. It doesn’t refer to Jesus as kingdom of God but rather it was the concept of kingdom of God. The women’s movement change this to realm of God rather than kingdom. The kingdom of God will come as revelation without signs. This is a call to get busy. Don’t be waiting for Jesus to come. The Q or Qualla source is in all the Gospels. Look at Frankel’s search for meaning. We have just been saying the realm is in our midst, but in vs 34 it talks about being taken in the judgement. The eagles and vulture references put it in the time and place they were in then. Very gross. The days are coming when you will desire to see Jesus again or the days of the Son of Man. We try to think of things happening in a linear way but Jesus thinks more in possibly things will happen in a general way with multiple things just happen. Living and dying are the realities. Maybe we looked at things more as a future, not like these verses of the kingdom in our midst.
Bill related how God smote the tree he was trimming when he broke his leg by tree trimmers in the 5fh month after his accident. Look at the whole text not just individually. He days forgive those who repent, faith like a mustard seed, unworthy servant. These are serious sins that compromise the mission. Al asked if they had been together for some time because of the way he is talking to them. You either have faith or you don’t. Repent means turn yourself around and don’t do what you have been doing. Causing you to stumble has to do how you treat with children. Is drowning an easy or hard way to die and it probably is fairly easy as such things go. A lot of people say if they had more faith this bad event wouldn’t have happened. I believe, help my unbelief. Tillich wrote doubt is edge of growth. That is how we grow in faith. Matthew 18 should precede this passage it can make sense. Jesus is concerned about the dress and that it be proper for the occasion. Witness this passage in verse 7and the man who was refused by regular guests so brought people in off the streets buy then throws someone out because they were not dressed properly. Should we put the Gospels together in one narrative? Would that be instructive. If you did that what is the message. Mark, Luke, and Matthew and John each have a unique message. Jesus is saying that you should forgive again and again despite our attempts to our judgements that tend to continue. This is judgement. We don’t let things go, we hold them for future use. Is faith outcomes in this life or in the next life. Is faith so important because it is our ticket to heaven. The opposite of faith is apathy. We can believe in faith but heart is involved in trust that God will do as he says. Is faith a communal act. Probably so. Luther said the community prays for him when he couldn’t pray himself. We all have faith moments and we have doubt moments. We band together because of willingness to share our concerns and not have to all agree to the same idea.
It is a revenge envy that if you have a good life on earth the after life will be bad, and visa versa. Supposedly, Jesus twisted it to having it about the poor man. Are most of the stories about the afterlife, but maybe it can be realized in this life. What is our view of the afterlife? In the times of this life was focused on this life not the hereafter. Is this about our indifference to the poor? Are we corrupted by wealth or by is it the fact that we don’t share? Possibly the indifference of the rich and the poor. does being poor qualify them for heaven. Not necessarily but Jesus doesn’t distinguish what makes the difference. This would have run well for the 1st Christians who felt they were the servant class, and therefore this felt to them like their ticket to heaven. This has to do with the rich man’s lack of compassion. What was the redeeming character of the poor man. This suggests we need to show hospitality to our neighbor no matter how poor the circumstances. The whole setting if this chapter is weird, as we have the crooked manager, Jesus talks to the Pharisees about their live of money, and the rich go to hell and poor go to heaven. I guess Jesus is directing his message here to the Pharisees and their hypocrisy. Indifference is the opposite if hospitality. Jesus is saying even if I rise from the dead it won’t convince people to believe.